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« Reply #75 on: January 22, 2017, 01:20:14 am »

Hello eddy,

The version of my CamBam is 1.012
The Inlay_Calculator_v2 plugin does not work!
Please, put here the source code.

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« Reply #76 on: January 22, 2017, 03:02:00 am »

I'm not a Windows guy, and I cannot read your error message, but that looks like the message you get when you need to view the info about the Inlay_Calculator.dll file and click the 'Unblock' checkbox and Apply.

The calculator is working for me in 1.0. 12.
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« Reply #77 on: January 22, 2017, 03:04:44 am »

V-Engrave also seems to be working for me in 1.0 and the text example I posted above seems to be working just fine!  Yay!
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« Reply #78 on: January 22, 2017, 03:53:09 am »

Hi Armando
Works here for me too, so I'm sure Bob's right about File Permissions.
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« Reply #79 on: January 22, 2017, 05:44:26 am »

Hi Bob

Thanks for the help. I just simulated the g-code on this one and " my god " !!!  692K . I will never be able to process this one. I will have to go to another machine for this. My machine has a max memory of 32K :-((


I have a colleague with the same machine running on mach3 so it will ave to be processed there.
i hope it will be possible there

I keep you informed if I succeed .



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« Reply #80 on: January 22, 2017, 06:13:25 am »



On Linux Mint 18.1 Cinnamon 64-bit, OK works.
On Windows 10 it does not work.
It has nothing to do with permission.

   Armando


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« Reply #81 on: January 22, 2017, 07:10:04 am »

Armando,

Get the latest version; http://www.atelier-des-fougeres.fr/Cambam/Aide/Plugins/InlayCalculator.html
then read this ; http://www.cambam.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=6294.msg50090#msg50090
and maybe this; http://www.cambam.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5384.msg42718#msg42718
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« Reply #82 on: January 22, 2017, 15:10:12 pm »

Hi eddy,

Now it works, all right!

It's very strange  Huh

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« Reply #83 on: January 22, 2017, 18:10:06 pm »

Hi Michael,

I think you need not give up on the basis of file size: remember that your geometry consists of a number of separate letters.  You can handle each letter as a separate file.

In the case of the substrate, the engrave mop can simply be replicated for each letter and then the 'generate G-Code' done separately for each.

In the case of the inlay, it is a bit more tricky because the letters are close enough together to interfere with one another.  You will have to move the letters apart from one another and generate the inlay for each separately.  They will then have to be diced up on a table saw and glued into place separately.  This could be a good plan anyway.

Alternatively, you could fall back to doing a conventional marquetry-style inlay.  You will be stuck with rounded corners with the radius of your finishing cutter, but that may not be too bad.  There is a plugin at the plugins site called "Inlay Toolpath" that calculates the correct shape for the inlay piece, rounding off the corners correctly.  I have not used it.

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« Reply #84 on: January 23, 2017, 04:12:07 am »

Here is another example of an inlay, this time with a part large enough that the substrate requires an internal offset for the v-engrave, and also a roughing cut to remove the inner sections.  The part outline is too broad to allow a v-engrave to be used alone.  Otherwise, the process is as above.

The Tool Angle is 90, the Air Gap, Sanding thickness and Glue thickness are all 1mm and the inlay thickness is 2mm.

I have not tried cutting this and the feeds-and-speeds need to be set up.

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« Reply #85 on: January 23, 2017, 21:23:18 pm »

Michel,
Here is one I did last year using the inlay method explained by Bob. Use as you wish..

* Clock Face Inlay.cb (339.28 KB - downloaded 196 times.)
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« Reply #86 on: October 21, 2019, 09:14:42 am »

Dear EddyCurrent and others

I am attaching an updated Inlay Calculator plugin (vers 2.1 for CB1.0 only) that provides some additional calculated parameters that appear to be necessary to fully specify the required MOPs.  

I am also attaching a more complete tutorial guide that builds on the notes originally provided by BobMackay.  I have attempted to provide a clearer set of instructions for what is otherwise a sometimes tricky set of operations.  In these notes I have also included a guide to the simpler "pocket" inlay that (in my view) has some merit.

I would certainly welcome some feedback and comments, or any bugs found and any suggestions that might make this plugin more accessible.
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Geoff

* InlayCalulatorv2.1.zip (561.64 KB - downloaded 35 times.)
* Inlay Carving with CNC-r1.1.pdf (2342.51 KB - downloaded 32 times.)
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« Reply #87 on: October 21, 2019, 18:02:04 pm »

This Inlay Tutorial is a terrific explanation of the V-carve approach, but I especially like the fact that it starts with a clear description of the Pocket-inlay process and only then moves on to the V-carve approach.  Having an actual example created using each technique really makes it clear the benefits and disadvantages of each.  This is otherwise fairly mind-bending stuff!

I think we should also be thanking pstemari for the V-engrave plugin on which all this is based.  Another mindbending piece of work.

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« Reply #88 on: October 22, 2019, 04:09:57 am »

I second that Bob.
The only thing I could find was.
It's well presented.
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« Reply #89 on: October 22, 2019, 04:38:09 am »

Thanks for the typo, I will post an updated version in a few days in case there are more corrections.
Geoff
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